You may have seen the letters ESG in the news recently, we certainly have. Literally, that translates to "Environmental, Social and Governance", but it actually means in practice, that's a whole separate matter. This week we dig into the meaning behind the acronym with ESG expert and good friend Harry Etra, founder and CEO of HXE partners. 

Also, special guest and longtime friend of the Pod, Lizzie Horvitz, joins us!

The conflict between doing good and making money will always be a balancing act in one way or another. If you're a company and not profitable, you're not long for the world (or market). However, these days, companies are finding that if they don't consider more than fattening up that dividend they could engender real backlash from consumers. We dig into how the scales are tipping, what's driving the shift in focus, and what the heck is up with this "greenwashing" we're hearing about.